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boltkunt 1:16 Thu Feb 9
Depression thread part two

Evening all

Thought I'd do another thread to see how everyone is going and dealing with the stuff mentioned on the last thread.

Since then I've decided at some point this year I'm going to do a fund raiser for mental health, most likely a sky dive but still considering a marathon (don't laugh for those who know me), I certainly won't be eating any protein bars like frankie....

Anyway, I've been up and down but have probably just picked myself up from rock bottom. Society and employers are still totally ignorant to it which has cost me my job last week, it was only the third episode of which I had a day off due to anxiety and panick attacks and told not to return. Gutted was an understatement...

Why are people and more so employers so ignorant still, our royal family see it as a subject which needs attention but people still turn a blind eye? Mental health is if not more important than physical illness but for those who suffer from it also suffer from discrimination especially in the work place! My employer was aware of my situation and at first very good about it but quickly changed their tune. Legally I can do fuck all due to probation period but you don't see employers sacking pregnant people, disabled people if they have a bad day?!

Anyway, good news a new job was offered today, as a very wise man once said

ITS HOW HARD WE HIT, ITS HOW HARD WE CAN GET HOT AND KEEP MOVING FORWARDS TAKING HITS BUT KEEP MOVING FORWARDS, THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE.

westhammerer 1:17 Thu Feb 9
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Keep on keeping on. Good luck.

tnb 2:21 Thu Feb 9
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Good stuff, Bolty. Unfortunately as you can't 'see' many mental health issues some people take the piss with it and it stigmatises everyone. Still, unless you were on some kind of rolling contract I'd imagine a tribunal would take a dim view of your previous employer's behaviour - but that's if you want all the stress of that right now, you seem to have the right attitude of getting on with someone who hopefully deserves your hard work better. Really pleased to hear things are looking up, and keep us informed obviously with the fundraising - I'll be more than happy to chuck a few quid in but word of unsolicited advice, don't put too much pressure on yourself right now. If you can do it then it will be a massive achievement and I'm sure you can on a day like today, but if not don't go beating yourself up about it. Your main mission right now is to look after yourself and it sounds like you're winning there at the moment. Good stuff, and best of luck to you.

Takashi Miike 3:01 Thu Feb 9
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I always thought I'd suffered with anxiety attacks when I was a binge drinker throughout my 20s but it was nothing compared to a couple of proper anxiety/panic attacks (cold sweat, increased heart rate, wanting to throw up), i had two years ago. I wouldn't wish feeling like that on anyone and i really feel sorry for people who constantly suffer with them, it must be a fucking nightmare

bolty, stay positive

J.Riddle 3:13 Thu Feb 9
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1 in 5 suffer from it, so the other 4 don't get it, there is your answer right there. Best to just move on not dwell if you can and put it behind you.

My auntie tried to top herself three times overdose, her daughter found her and never forgave her. Smoked and drank her self to an early grave. Best friend also topped himself over debts, left a wife and two young daughters.

Best of luck, keep of the Devils brew!

Son of Anarchy 3:54 Thu Feb 9
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Bolty...

So sorry for your troubles mate, youve always seemed a happy soul when Ive seen you chatted to you on here & twitter.

I'll sponsor you mate, hope you get the help you need.

Banjo 5:35 Thu Feb 9
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Bolty. I admire your courage and your openness on an issue that is rarely spoken off, particularly amongst men.
I too have suffered from depression at all too regular intervals in my life and the depression has generally been accompanied by anxiety in one form or another. I don't know exactly how you feel but I have a relatively good idea and my heart goes out to you.
The idea of raising funds to help others suffering from mental illness is a tremendous one and I applaud you for thinking about the best way to handle this.
All the very best mate and I hope your black dog retreats to its kennel real soon.

Mr Polite 8:53 Thu Feb 9
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alright spongebob square head?!


Who can't move forward when they're Hot?


Pussies that's who?!



PS - my work is currently rolling out well being workshops to talk about mental health, stress etc. Came about after someone in company topped themselves. It's good they're taking it seriously and I do think attitudes to mental health have improved drastically over the last couple of years.

chelmsfordhammer 9:12 Thu Feb 9
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boltkunt, glad to see you've got another job but just for future reference. An employer cannot just sack you if you suffer from things such as depression. There is a thing called the equalities act (formerly the disability discrimination act). If you have an illness that you've had for over a year (thats only a guideline, it could be less) and you have an illness that affects your everyday life (depression normally does) , then the employer has to make reasonable adjustments to your worklife. This could mean adjusting your job or allowing you a few more days off a year.

If, after making the reasonable adjustments you still haven't improved , they can medically retire you but cannot just sack you.

Whether you'd be covered by this i don't know, as only a doctor can make that call so it might be an idea to ask your doctor.

If you are , then you need to inform your employer, if they sacked you after informing them you are covered, again they are falling foul of the equalities act.

Its just something that you might be able to use if you get sacked again in the future.

Darby_ 9:15 Thu Feb 9
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Nothing to do but soldier on and try what you can to get yourself out of the hole, Bolty.

At this point, would you say that you'd do ANYTHING to feel good again? Do anything, give up anything? I think once you've decided that you're genuinely willing to do anything to get yourself out of a hole, eventually you will.

Tomshardware 9:50 Thu Feb 9
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I suffer with mental health, not sure I'd be employable so I'm self employed, it takes the pressure off and in really bad times can take time off and not have to explain it to a boss. It's shocking that you lost your job due to an illness.

Brussels Sprout 9:52 Thu Feb 9
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Good post on a very important subject. Being open about your experiences will help end the stigma over mental health.

I recently was trained as a mental health first aider. It really increased my understanding of what before was for me a taboo subject.

stewie griffin 9:53 Thu Feb 9
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Do you become a different person when you put on your mental health first aider jacket?

gank 10:06 Thu Feb 9
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As soon as someone claims this madness it's impossible to get rid of them. It's a fucking nightmare especially when they report to me. Just give them SOP roles then they moan about that too, it brings everyone down and when you say 'you're making us all depressed the crying starts and HR get involved over the choice of words.

I'm a good manager because my sales team get results and make a lot of money, not because I'm a shoulder to cry on. The whole department would run better without the depressed girl yet I'm stuck with her. This 'mental condition' prevents her from doing her job properly yet I can't sack her. If she was an alcoholic or just a thicko I'd have no bother getting shot.

And besides, what is this doing on a West Ham website? Other than the tenuous link that supporting West Ham can be pretty depressing!

Fifth Column 10:09 Thu Feb 9
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I don't want go get hot with you Bolty.

stewie griffin 10:10 Thu Feb 9
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The abject failure to correctly quote Rocky BALBOA is reason enough to be depressed.

Simply awful.

But it's ok, SPROUTS is here.

East Auckland Hammer 10:13 Thu Feb 9
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Manager wanky ganky?

Team leader in a call centre more likely.

gank 10:15 Thu Feb 9
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How come you're so interested?

bobbymoore 10:18 Thu Feb 9
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Bolty,

If you're going to do something for charity, make sure it's something meaningful.

Doing a jolly.... sky dive, bungee jump, shave legs in my humble opinion is a kop out.

You want to make sure you're suffering. A marathon is an excellent idea. Get fit in the process, which may in turn improve your own depression.

I would be much more inclined to support someone like yourself who'd I've met once by doing a marathon than a sky dive.

Put yourself through some pain and let us all enjoy seeing you come out the other side.

:)

gank 10:21 Thu Feb 9
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Sponsored Suicide

Kearley 11:40 Thu Feb 9
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Bolty

I think the reason it is difficult at work for managers is that if someone has a broken leg, you know why they are not at work. You can't fake a broken leg.

With depression it can be difficult for someone to understand who has not suffered from it. And it is easier for someone to fake just because they are lazy and workshy - although I accept that is obviously not always the case.

Also, I'm not sure I agree with your comment about it being more important than physical health. In 2015/16 I spent the best part of 6 months in hospital being cut open and having things removed and operated on. People's bodies let them down, and often when they are far too young.

Anyway, glad you are doing ok at the moment and I'll gladly sponsor you when you pull your finger out!

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